This was an interesting conversation, thank you! A couple thoughts... I am familiar with the phrase "the spirit of Vatican 2" but I wish the guest would have defined it for the podcast audience. It rolled off so seamlessly that it breezed by me as a term d'art the way the guest used it in his discussion. It wasn't until the second mention, when Chris, I think, interjected a reminder of it's meaning versus the typical way we think of the "spirit of" something, that I realized why I'd been trying to sort out the "spirit of" the conversation the past several minutes. In general I thought the way he spoke was assuming a level of inside knowledge from the listener that isn't typical of the usual Visitation podcast conversations.
The other thing, and maybe this would be addressed in other episodes, is that the discussion of the history of the Catholic Church in American was largely focused on the midwest/eastern cities experience. In California, with the Spanish missions and influence of haciendas/ranchos, our experience is so so different. We have no experience with the type of "every four blocks" heritage churches and really no connection to east coast experience of the 1880's/early 1900's experience since our west coast Catholic experience reflects the experience and traditions of immigrants from Asia and Latin America.
Maybe I just found the guest format to be too different from your usual banter? When I was playing an episode in the car recently, my 3 year old asked, "mama are those your friends?" lol
Emily and Chris, I just finished this podcast. Wonderful! I loved hearing about the US history of our beautiful complex church. I've lived in Beaver County for almost 10 yrs. Our parish had gone thru a merger a few yrs before we arrived but, then went thru another about 5 yrs ago. My husband and I attended the diocesan meetings that they held in our church prior to the merger. We could not believe how angry people were and saying things like..."we're not worshipping with people from THAT town". We have lived in 6 different states over the 35 years of our marriage and maybe we just don't have those lines in our heads. We have always been excited to visit new churches and experience its culture. We are America! The melting pot! There's so much to appreciate in every culture.
Looking forward to future your collaborations and discovering more about our American Catholic heritage.
This was an interesting conversation, thank you! A couple thoughts... I am familiar with the phrase "the spirit of Vatican 2" but I wish the guest would have defined it for the podcast audience. It rolled off so seamlessly that it breezed by me as a term d'art the way the guest used it in his discussion. It wasn't until the second mention, when Chris, I think, interjected a reminder of it's meaning versus the typical way we think of the "spirit of" something, that I realized why I'd been trying to sort out the "spirit of" the conversation the past several minutes. In general I thought the way he spoke was assuming a level of inside knowledge from the listener that isn't typical of the usual Visitation podcast conversations.
The other thing, and maybe this would be addressed in other episodes, is that the discussion of the history of the Catholic Church in American was largely focused on the midwest/eastern cities experience. In California, with the Spanish missions and influence of haciendas/ranchos, our experience is so so different. We have no experience with the type of "every four blocks" heritage churches and really no connection to east coast experience of the 1880's/early 1900's experience since our west coast Catholic experience reflects the experience and traditions of immigrants from Asia and Latin America.
Maybe I just found the guest format to be too different from your usual banter? When I was playing an episode in the car recently, my 3 year old asked, "mama are those your friends?" lol
Emily and Chris, I just finished this podcast. Wonderful! I loved hearing about the US history of our beautiful complex church. I've lived in Beaver County for almost 10 yrs. Our parish had gone thru a merger a few yrs before we arrived but, then went thru another about 5 yrs ago. My husband and I attended the diocesan meetings that they held in our church prior to the merger. We could not believe how angry people were and saying things like..."we're not worshipping with people from THAT town". We have lived in 6 different states over the 35 years of our marriage and maybe we just don't have those lines in our heads. We have always been excited to visit new churches and experience its culture. We are America! The melting pot! There's so much to appreciate in every culture.
Looking forward to future your collaborations and discovering more about our American Catholic heritage.